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A proper Gibson Les Paul will set you back THOUSANDS of dollars. They’re great guitars sure, some of the best on the market. But is a Gibson Les Paul worth all that money? Let’s find out… Everybody knows the Gibson Les Paul. Whether a Custom, Junior, or a Standard, Gibson’s Les Paul has been a constant presence in music since the 1950s. Jimmy Page used one. Slash uses them. Buzz Osbourne and Adam Jones use them. Basically, in ALL eras of music, the Les Paul has been front and center. And not just in rock music either. Made in the USA, Gibson guitars – like Fender – are the most iconic, the most well-known and instantly recognized guitars on the planet. Fender has its Strat, and Gibson has its Les Paul. Both are excellent. But they’re also completely different with respect to tone and how they look and play. The Les Paul sounds darker and has more bass, for instance, whereas a traditional Strat sounds lighter and twangier. I could do an entire article on the differences between a Strat and a Les Paul. But for the sake of brevity, in this post, we’re just going to be looking at Gibson’s Les Paul. We’re going to explore why it is so loved, why they are so expensive, and, finally, discuss whether buying one is worth it or not spoiler they are, but it depends entirely on context/money/ability/commitment. 6 Reasons Why Are Gibson Les Paul Guitars So Expensive? Gibson Guitars Are Made In The USA The main reason why Gibson guitars – like the Les Paul – are so expensive is that they’re made in the USA. Gibson has three factories located in the USA and it pays its workers good wages. This, in turn, has to be factored into the cost of the guitar. Overseas labor – in places like China – is a lot cheaper, so the cost of guitars made there is lower. The Brand Name Factor Beyond this, you have higher levels of quality control on Gibson guitars. They’re made to exacting standards by craftsmen that live and breathe guitar. You’re also paying for the Gibson brand name as well. It has a legacy all of its own, born from the fact that ALL the greats, from the 1950s to today, tend to use Gibson guitars or Fender. This includes Jimmy Page, Adam Jones, Matt Pike, Peter Frampton, and Tony Iommi. The Types of Wood & Overall Finish One of the main costs in making a guitar, save for the labor, is the type of wood used to construct it. Gibson uses high-quality, rare woods like mahogany, rosewood, ebony, and maple. These types of wood are protected by strict legislation in the USA and because Gibson is located in the USA, it has to adhere to these laws and regulations. Guitar companies based outside the USA, or that have their manufacturing located outside the USA, are not limited by these laws and regulations, so they can acquire the woods required to build guitars for less money. Or, they just use completely different types of wood – something Gibson would never do. Scarcity is one of the biggest economic factors that denotes “value” – if something is rare, it is valuable. This is why gold and diamonds are worth something and your college degree are not. This is why vintage Gibson guitars can go for prices exceeding $20,000; they’re rare, highly sought after, and they sound different better than a $200 copy. And then we have the way Gibson finishes its guitars. It uses something called nitrocellulose and regulation in the USA dictates that you can only just a set amount of this type of lacquer over a period of 12 months. Again, this dictates how many guitars Gibson can make. Fewer guitars mean scarcity and, as we learned above, scarcity equates to higher value perception. This is why other brands now use alternatives like urethane or polyurethane to finish their guitars. Advanced Quality Control Costs Money If you spend $2000+ on a guitar, like the Gibson Les Paul Standard or the Gibson SG, you’ll want to be confident that it holds its tune, plays wonderfully, and doesn’t have any issues. In order to make sure ALL of its guitars work perfectly, Gibson invests millions in its quality control process. It even has a special machine called the Plek machine. Plek machines cost an ungodly amount of money. But they serve an integral part of Gibson’s quality control process. When a guitar is complete, it is put in the Plek machine and tested. The Plek machine scans the guitar, checks the fretboard for irregularities, ensures the frets are leveled properly, and that the guitar – when under tension – works perfectly. And it can spot issues with an accuracy of one-thousandth of a millimeter. The Plek machine, once it has completed its tests, will then proceed to create a bespoke nut that is custom to each guitar it tests. The nut design and implementation are based on the unique readings it gathered from scanning the neck of the guitar and how it operates under tension. Obviously, these Plek machines are VERY expensive and sophisticated, so the cost of using and maintaining them has to be added to the RRP of the guitar. The upshot of this is that when you use a Gibson guitar, you can rest assured that there will be zero issues with how it plays and sounds. Gibson’s QC is next-level. This is why its guitars are used to record and play live by professionals. They’re just more reliable than other, cheaper brands like Epiphone, Harley Benton, and Tokai. And they’re more reliable because Gibson invests millions in its quality control process every year. Many Parts Are Hand-Made And Hand-Finished Because players expect a certain sound from Gibson guitars, a sound that has evolved since the 1950s, Gibson is tied to certain production protocols. It cannot change anything too much because this would impact the sound and tone of its guitars. And people spend more on Gibson guitars because they have a certain tone. For instance, Gibson does screw its necks to the body of the guitar. Instead, the neck is glued in place. This is obviously A LOT trickier to do than simply screwing a neck in place. It requires a specialized technician to do it and it takes longer than using screws. The reason Gibson does this, though, is that it creates better sustain. And players like sustain. In addition to this, Gibson ensures all of its necks are hand-sanded and finished by a human being. This ensures each neck is unique. It also ensures that each neck is done to an established, high standard. Other brands use machines to do this. Gibson does it the old way. And it shows when you play one, although it does take A LOT longer. And then there’s the finish. We’ve already established that Gibson uses a very expensive lacquer to finish its guitars nitrocellulose. This type of lacquer is very tricky to work with, so a specialized craftsman is required to implement it. Gibson could switch to a cheaper method. But the use of nitrocellulose is what gives Gibson guitars that immaculate finish. This particular lacquer also ages really well, evolving the appearance of the guitar as the years pass. Without this, it just wouldn’t be a Gibson. Electronics, Pickups & Overall Tone Gibson has a legacy to think about, so it cannot just follow trends and change things on its guitars willy-nilly. You can get Gibson guitars with different pickup configurations, for instance, but even then, they’re all installed and hand-wound in the Gibson factory. This is done to ensure that nothing messes with the overall sound and tone of its guitars. Where things start to get expensive, however, is that everything on a Gibson is hand-wired. From the pickups to the switches, potentiometers, and capacitors, everything is done by hand by an expert craftsman. On a cheaper guitar, made in China, cheap, unskilled labor is used. This is fine of the chief differences between, say, and Epiphone and a Gibson. And it is also one of the biggest costs of Gibson’s business. Gibson also uses the most expensive materials and electronics it can get its hands on. All of the electronics and components that go into a Gibson guitar are also extensively tested by engineers – another large cost. Cheaper guitars are seldom tested. They’re mass-produced and pumped out of factories in China. This is why they cost so much less than a Gibson. Different Types of Gibson Les Paul – Hyper Expensive To Affordable OK, we’ve covered pretty much all the main reasons why Gibson’s guitars are so expensive. It all comes down to labor costs, build materials, quality control, and production methods. But when it comes to buying a Gibson guitar, what’re your options? Are they all super-expensive? The bad news is that ALL of Gibson’s production guitars are expensive compared to other brands like Epiphone. The cheapest Gibson you can buy is a Gibson Les Paul Special Tribute – it retails for $999. Gibson Les Paul Standard '60s The Gibson Les Paul Standard is, well, the “standard” for doom metal. It is as iconic as can be and has been used and abused by all the greats – Adam Jones, Buzz Osbourne, Sunno, BORIS, Matt Pike. It has its own sound, Gibson’s best pickups, and it is perfect for down-tuning. And because it’s a Gibson, it’ll also hold its value. So while it is expensive, it is also an investment. The most expensive one you can buy? It varies anywhere from $1119 for a Gibson Les Paul Studio to $2669 for a Gibson Les Paul Standard. If you go with a Custom model, you’re looking at anywhere from $4999 to $8699. Vintage model Gibson guitars can fetch anywhere from $20000 to over $100,000. Basically, if you want a “cheap” Gibson, your best bet is to go with either a Gibson Les Paul Studio and/or Special or an SG Studio or Special. You can pick these up for less than $1000 – though not by much. You’re looking at $ for one of these guitars. Even used Gibson guitars are expensive, almost the same as new models. And the reason for this is that Gibson guitars hold their value. Are Gibson Les Paul Guitars A Good Investment? Did you know that the US dollar has lost 95% of its value since 1945? That’s pretty crazy, right? The money in your bank account, which isn’t backed by anything physical like gold or silver, is worth less today than it was when Jimmy Hendrix played Woodstock. A lot less. If you’ve got savings – or you have a lot of money – buying a Gibson guitar is a very good investment, especially if you can pick up a vintage model at a good price. The guitar will hold its value and, if you get your hands on a sought-after model, you could make yourself a lot of money. But in order to accrue value, you’ll need to first find and then acquire a Les Paul from Gibson’s golden era – between 1958 and 1960. If you can find one of these Les Paul guitars knocking around, and you can buy one for less than $10,000, you’ll have yourself a solid investment that will increase in value the longer you hold on to it. For instance, a well-preserved ’59 Les Paul with a coveted flame maple top could easily command $500,000 or more. The tricky thing is actually finding one. But from an investment perspective, buying classic and/or iconic guitars does work. It is no different from buying expensive watches, holding on to them for a decade or so, and then selling them on to another collector for a higher price. Of course, to be successful with this kind of thing you must first have the available funds, understand how the guitar market works, know how to spot a good, classic model, and then actually acquire it – either at auction or via sites like Reverb. It ain’t easy. And it ain’t cheap. But it is an investment because it will generate money in the future. Do new Gibson guitars hold their value? In a word, yes. If you bought a new Gibson Les Paul Standard today, played it for several years, and then decided to sell it, the guitar would retain – on average – 85% of its original value. This is outstanding whichever way you slice it; no other guitar brand – save for Fender – has this kind of value retention. Should You Buy A Gibson Les Paul? The whole point of this post is to explain WHY Gibson guitars are so expensive. We’re now 2000+ words deep, so I think we’ve covered off all the basics about why a Gibson Les Paul costs a lot more than an Epiphone Les Paul. The next obvious question, however, is should you go out and buy a Gibson guitar? This will depend, largely speaking, on your level of skill, your bank balance, and whether or not you’re a professional musician. If you’re just a hobbyist player and you’re relatively young and don’t have much cash, buying a $3000 Gibson guitar doesn’t make much sense. You’d be far better off with a $499 Epiphone SG Standard. If you’re a professional musician or you have aspirations about becoming one, then, yes, it does make sense to INVEST in a Gibson Les Paul or a proper SG. If you want to sound professional or record music, you need a good quality guitar. Cheaper models are OK for a bit, but they don’t cut it in professional circles. This is why most professionals use Gibson, not Epiphone. Is a Gibson essential? Hell no! You will get the same level of quality from a PRS guitar. Or a Fender. But if you’re into metal or heavier music, there is a reason why the Gibson SG and Gibson Les Paul are so popular. They just sound darker and heavier, thanks to their construction and the type of wood used. Les Paul guitars especially. Nothing sounds quite like a Gibson Les Paul Standard or Custom. They have this depth to them, a low-end rumble that you simply cannot get with a Fender Strat or a Tele. This is why everybody from Jimmy Page to BORIS use Les Paul guitars. They use them to unleash that earth-shattering low-end, to create huge sounds. To sound HEAVY. Gibson Les Paul Standard '60s The Gibson Les Paul Standard is, well, the “standard” for doom metal. It is as iconic as can be and has been used and abused by all the greats – Adam Jones, Buzz Osbourne, Sunno, BORIS, Matt Pike. It has its own sound, Gibson’s best pickups, and it is perfect for down-tuning. And because it’s a Gibson, it’ll also hold its value. So while it is expensive, it is also an investment. Decent Alternatives For WAY Less Money What if you’re not a professional player, or you cannot afford a Gibson Les Paul or SG, what’re your options? For me, it has to be Epiphone. Epiphone makes amazing Les Paul and SG models. They retail for less than $600 in most cases and they look and play amazingly well. I love the Epiphone SG Standard. For $499, I honestly don’t think you can get a better guitar for less money. The Epiphone Les Paul Prophecy is another amazing option. It retails for $899 and it runs Fishman Fluence pickups. If you want to play modern metal, the Epiphone Les Paul Prophecy is a near-perfect option for aspiring guitarists that are pursuing a career in music. Epiphone SG Standard For the money, you’re getting some of the best tone and specs on the market in a guitar that looks and feels like a $3000 Gibson. Ideal for beginners and advanced players alike, the Epiphone SG is one of our favorite models right now. The Best Gibson Les Paul Alternative Epiphone Les Paul Prophecy With its Fishman Fluence humbuckers, iconic design, and amazing specs and components, the Epiphone Les Paul Prophecy is easily the best Gibson Les Paul on the market right now. In fact, I think I’d still take one of these over a proper Gibson Les Paul. It is that good… Buy Now Or, if you want something a little different, go with the PRS SE Standard 24 – it is a beautiful guitar that plays like a dream. It costs just over $500 and is perhaps one of the best guitars on the market at this price point. And it’s a PRS guitar too, so it is built to excruciatingly exact standards by PRS’ craftsman. I own one of these and it is one of my most-played guitars. Richard Richard has been playing guitar for over a decade and is a huge fan of metal, doom, sludge, and rock music in general – though mostly metal. Having played in bands and worked in studios since the early 2000s, Richard is a massive music production geek, a fan of minimalist recording techniques, and he really likes old-school guitars. Keep Reading

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Home Forums The Guitar Epiphone Guitars You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites should upgrade or use an alternative browser. made in china or indonesia... Thread starter Wolf Start date Oct 14, 2019 Joined Oct 14, 2019 Messages 1 Reaction score 0 1 I bought my first Epiphone Les Paul custom pro a few days back, and would like too know out of the two, china or Indonesia what one makes the better Les Paul. 2 I have no direct experience with Indonesian Epiphones, I've heard they can be hit or miss. I'd take a Chinese Quigdao made in the last dozen or so years any day though. Joined Nov 11, 2017 Messages 41 Reaction score 34 3 My only Indonesian was a 1994 Trad Pro 1. The good 1st rate solid build, flawless finish, fantastic pickups/electronics, good setup out of the box. The bad Sharp fret ends, neck too thin for me. *Sold it because of the neck. I had a 2004 China Les Paul Standard that was 1st rate also. If not for the great Trad Pro pickups and the too thin Trad Pro neck, it would be a toss-up between the two. Last edited Oct 15, 2019 Joined Jan 16, 2015 Messages 7,554 Reaction score 9,281 Location Kraut-Territory 4 I bought my first Epiphone Les Paul custom pro a few days back, and would like too know out of the two, china or Indonesia what one makes the better Les Paul. Hi, Welcome here €piTalk Congrats on your first €pi LP-Custom The Question IMO is Can you see/feel/hear any difference if they would not write the country of manufacture on the guitar ? Countries don't make Epis - the employees make them Joined Jan 16, 2015 Messages 7,554 Reaction score 9,281 Location Kraut-Territory 6 The employees at the Quigdao Epi plant make some darn fine axes. just like those employees at the Indonesian Samick factory and those at the Korean Unsung factory.... Joined Sep 1, 2017 Messages 123 Reaction score 122 Location Charlotte, 7 Both factories from what I've bought and have had the pleasure of owning. Indonesian built Artisan models and the Thunderbird are just Fantastic. Close as possible to the big daddy without stepping on toes. The '55 Inspired by Custom and Jotun, as well as the ES-335 are Quindao China masterpieces. You just couldn't expect too much more. Unbelievable, so just be careful where you purchase. That's my only hang up. I can't explain how the GC here just has had bad quality stuff. Always a problem. zZounds and AMS have been better than I expected Last edited Oct 16, 2019 Joined Feb 20, 2018 Messages 600 Reaction score 536 8 It's all about material selection, specs and quality control. Joined Jan 25, 2019 Messages 24 Reaction score 18 9 I have experience in this, and I have a take, but I'm going to keep it to myself because I only buy very cheap used ones and I don't want to rock the boat. Joined Jan 16, 2015 Messages 7,554 Reaction score 9,281 Location Kraut-Territory 10 ......... but I'm going to keep it to myself.......... If we all did this - you would have nothing to read and learn here...... Joined Jan 25, 2015 Messages 5,134 Reaction score 6,925 Location Sutton QC 11 I have experience in this, and I have a take, but I'm going to keep it to myself because I only buy very cheap used ones and I don't want to rock the boat. And why do you feel inclined to share this bit of wisdom with us then ? 12 I have experience in this, and I have a take, but I'm going to keep it to myself because I only buy very cheap used ones and I don't want to rock the boat. Pointless post is pointless. Joined Jan 13, 2020 Messages 2 Reaction score 3 Location Pasadena, CA 13 Found this conversation as I searched Epi MIK vs MIC. I've owned many Epiphones and other guitars. Five years I started buying, keeping and playing, then selling guitars, many Epis, and mostly hollow or semi-hollow bodies. I now own as my keepers the following MIKs Sorrento, Alleykat, Regent; and an MIC Broadway 2018. I purchased all of these used Reverb, Guitar Center, Craigslist. I've been playing guitar for decades, and between 18-28 I played out regularly. I still play nearly every day. I consider my self a very good player. Now, what I have noticed about these Epiphones has been quite interesting. I find that the build quality is about the same for MIKs and MICs. Feel, playability, etc, seem to be equal. I have had a MIK Broadway and my current MIC Broadway. What I've discovered is the difference lies in the pickups. Yep, I've narrowed it down to the pickups. I took my 1999 Sorrento with P90s to Guitar Center and compared to the a Wildkat and the Casino. The Sorrento was a much better tone all the way around. I've also compared the '96 Regent pickup to the new D'Angelico EXL-1 both are 17" single pickup hollow - Epi doesn't make the Regent anymore and the Regent pickup was astoundingly superior. In fact, everyone who plays my Regent is blown away at the clarity of that pickup. I hold three music events at my studio in Pasadena every month so dozens of musicians come around each month. I recently purchased a 2002 MIK Alleykat, and this is when I decided that I must get more info on these MIKs because the pickups on this inexpensive Alleykat were astounding. I have two Gibson ES-275s, one semi-hollow Thinline, the other a full hollowbody. I compared the Alleykat to both of them. Results were as follows, the 275s both have Gibson's MHS pickups - some of the best and most articulate pickups I've every heard. I first compared the Alleykat to the full hollow and deeper 275. As expected, the 275 was a warmer sound, the pups were a bit louder, the highs were a bit more chime-y, but the Alleykat's pickups held their own very well. They just sounded like a different style guitar, because it was semi-hollow vs hollow, but the pickups did not compare as duller or muddier, they are very well voiced. I then compared them to the semi-hollow 275. The Alleykat pickups were not as loud, but very close in clarity and tone. I was really surprised. I never expected such a similar tone - not equal, but very similar. I must add that all the guitars have D'Addario 11 half-round strings, with the exception of the Broadway, on which I have installed 11 flats. So there's my story. I find the build quality pretty much equal, but I discovered that the older MIK pickups sound much better than the newer MICs. Why? I've no idea, but my ears can certainly hear the difference. Maybe Korea was making the Epi pickups in the same way Gibson was making their pickups, and maybe this all stopped once production moved full-time to China? Just guessing here. At any rate, keep playing whatever ya got! Joined Dec 7, 2015 Messages 3,352 Reaction score 4,038 Location Fort Collins, CO 14 Interesting observations. Could be why Epi has brought pickup mfg. back to the US to build the Pro line models. Pickups aren't complicated but there's still a lot of science that goes into designing good ones and an art to winding them well to avoid issues that can impact performance. On top of that you can take two identical sets and put them in different guitars and they may sound different to the ear. Then you can toss personal preference into the mix where one players wants absolute clarity and transparency and another prefers some woollier tonality for jazz or even for high gain distortion so everyone who winds them produces different "flavors" like jelly beans to meet demands. Anyway, always good to hear opinions from other players. Joined Jan 6, 2020 Messages 117 Reaction score 118 15 A lot of the voodoo about pickups would disappear if LCR meters were more affordable. The bare minimum, a DE-5000, costs as low as $80 at the moment, still way beyond a $10 multimeter. If you like a pickup, with no other information available it might be tempting to look at factors such as where it was made, how made it, or how much it cost, but with an LCR meter you might find that all the pickups you like just happen to be the ones with lower inductance, or higher inductance. DC resistance only correlates with the inductance to a degree, resistance rises linearly, but inductance rises to the square of the number of turns on the coils. If there was some secret to how pickups in the were wound, that secret would have leaked out ages ago. If there is a secret it's this stick to vintage specs, a lot of the import pickups tend to be either a lot hotter or very under wound, but sets like the ProBucker line show that they're taking vintage specs seriously now. Last edited Jan 13, 2020 Joined Jan 16, 2015 Messages 7,554 Reaction score 9,281 Location Kraut-Territory 16 Could be why Epi has brought pickup mfg. back to the US to build the Pro line models. Where is/was it stated that the Epi Pro-buckers are made in the US ? They are using some identical parts - that's all Joined Dec 7, 2015 Messages 3,352 Reaction score 4,038 Location Fort Collins, CO 17 Where is/was it stated that the Epi Pro-buckers are made in the US ? They are using some identical parts - that's all Well you would know better than I but I thought I had read that they were being produced in Nashville and if not I stand corrected. Anyway, how they're being made is a lot more important than where they're being made. I'm not one who cares much about point of origin. Joined Nov 5, 2019 Messages 24 Reaction score 32 18 I have no experience with Indonesian Epiphones but I can attest to Indonesian Squiers. They are just as fine as their Chinese counterparts where the Classic Vibe guitars are concerned. Joined Jan 25, 2019 Messages 24 Reaction score 18 19 And why do you feel inclined to share this bit of wisdom with us then ? Conversation is conversation. If I'm breaking some kind of rule that you have, I don't mind. Joined Jan 16, 2015 Messages 7,554 Reaction score 9,281 Location Kraut-Territory 20 Conversation is conversation. Not telling your opinion/wisdom/expierience at all is absolute NO conversation If I'm breaking some kind of rule that you have, I don't mind. we will tell you if you violate a rule Home Forums The Guitar Epiphone Guitars
FirstI list the features of the Gibson Les Paul 59 FB Light Aged guitar. Then you have a video or two, purchase links. I'll tell you how this post is built. First I list the features of the Gibson Les Paul 59 FB Light Aged guitar. Then you have a video or two, purchase links
MusicRadar Verdict A Traditional Les Paul in every sense, and one that's bound to please purists. Pros +Tidy build with a most classic feel. +There’s no weight relief or compound radius here and appealing beef to the neck shape.+Nicely voiced pickups match the style. Cons -Wouldn’t vintage-style wiring be more appropriate here? MusicRadar's got your back Our team of expert musicians and producers spends hours testing products to help you choose the best music-making gear for you. Find out more about how we test. While Fender splits its guitars into series and periodically updates or refreshes them, Gibson’s main USA production division prefers the annual makeover approach. This year’s line-up was seen by many dealers as a return to form “A new chapter in Gibson’s illustrious history, with their focus firmly back on crafting only the world’s finest guitars!” said one. As ever, the Les Paul sits central, with eight models if we count The Paul 40th Anniversary bookended by the start-up double-cut Les Paul Junior Tribute and topped off with the Les Paul High Performance. Add to the list the Les Paul Studio and Studio Tribute, and that leaves us with the three most classic Les Pauls, the Standard, Traditional and Classic. Today, we’re looking at the its name implies, the Traditional is closest to the Les Paul we’ve known and loved over the past six and a bit decades and that’s reflected in its colour options, the only change for 2019. At launch it was offered in Tobacco Burst, Heritage Cherry Sunburst, Manhattan Midnight and Transparent Cherry Red; latterly it’s just the Heritage Cherry Sunburst as here and Tobacco Burst. Check out our pick of the best electric guitarsOutwardly, all three of the 2019 models share the same construction one-piece neck, headstock widening wings and two-piece centre- joined backs, with the maple top grade on the Traditional rated as AA. The Traditional’s top is not in an ultra-blingy style, with a classic striping that, in this finish, helps this model to edge up on our favourite list before we’ve even played a note. The Traditional is old-school with a hand-wired loom and Sprague orange drop caps. It uses Gibson Burstbuckers a 1 and you believe old is best, the Traditional is probably the Les Paul for you. It has no truck with weight relief, and although slightly heavier than our Standard it’s still nicely under 4kg/9lb. The neck, too, will appeal to those players who prefer an older style with more front-to-back taper and a bigger, rounded many ways, the Traditional is the Fender American Original of this interim Les Paul line-up it’s the most vintage spec before you get into the Gibson Custom Historics. It looks great with that deep red ’Burst to the front and the lovely red hue to the rest of the guitar, but it’s the simplistic drive that makes it such a pleasure. The crisp, clean acoustic response gets the guitar working as it should with an almost second bloom to the sustain tail - so much a part of this classic design. The Traditional has a subtly, vintage-y voice - snappy with volume reduction and smooth in the highs. Unplugged, the Traditional is a beauty. But it’s more than that the good weight without weight relief , the bigger neck... it feels like a good Les Paul and looks the part. It will no doubt be a while until new Gibson’ settles in and has a noticeable effect on the instruments we can buy. These interim models, however, are three strong dishes that employ existing features we’ve seen before, albeit not in quite the same combinations. With the horrors of robotic’ tuners, over-wide necks and zero frets now pretty much consigned to the past, this Traditional model zones in on the Les Paul in classic might well be a quite historic model, too the end of an era. Just as we conclude our test at the start of 2019, the new Gibson management announced there will apparently be a completely new 2019 range of Classics’ “Designs like the Les Paul and the SG once again embrace the features and construction details that made them legends in the first place a Les Paul Standard ’50s spec and a Les Paul Standard ’60s spec as well as one with P-90 pickups,” says Cesar Gueikian, Gibson’s chief merchant officer. “The Contemporary line also introduces a new concept with the Les Paul and SG Modern.” These new ranges “will be available for purchase later this year”. What that means for the original and clearly short-lived 2019 models that are in-store is anyone’s guess, but we suspect as the year progresses there will be deals aplenty to be had 2018 models are already discounted in many stores. Whatever happens while the dust settles, it looks like 2019 is going to be quite a year for Gibson lovers. Watch this space! Dave Burrluck is one of the world’s most experienced guitar journalists, who started writing back in the '80s for International Musician and Recording World, co-founded The Guitar Magazine and has been the Gear Reviews Editor of Guitarist magazine for the past two decades. Along the way, Dave has been the sole author of The PRS Guitar Book and The Player's Guide to Guitar Maintenance as well as contributing to numerous other books on the electric guitar. Dave is an active gigging and recording musician and still finds time to make, repair and mod guitars, not least for Guitarist’s The Mod Squad. Most Popular Belikoleksi Gibson Indonesia online lengkap edisi & harga terbaru July 2022 di Tokopedia! ∙ Promo Pengguna Baru ∙ Kurir Instan ∙ Bebas Ongkir ∙ Cicilan 0%.
Will Gibson’s newest Les Paul stand up to our strict standards? Cost $ find yours on or Sweetwater and learn more on Overview & Final Score Well the day has finally come where Gibson has sent me a guitar to review. Quick personal tangent, this guitar really makes me feel like I “made it” in the guitar review world. Nevertheless, Gibson’s rise in 2020 started on the back of the Epiphone re-launch and continues here with the new 2020 line of USA models. Gibson’s Les Paul Studio 2020 is powered by coil tapped 490R and 498T humbuckers with otherwise standard wiring configuration 2 tone, 2 volume, 3-way selector. The Mahogany body is even weight relieved beneath the figured Maple top, making it a real comfortable departure from heavy LP’s of the past. The Mahogany neck features a return to Rosewood fretboards yes! and 22 medium jumbo frets. The neck shape is a slim taper, that still feels like a classic Gibson, just with a bit more utility and comfort than your vintage baseball bat. I fortunately received one featuring the gorgeous “Smokehouse Burst” finish featuring gloss nitrocellulose lacquer. This LP Studio sports Grover Rotomatic tuners, Gibson’s Nashville tune-o-matic and stop bar tailpiece, and a lovely soft shell case as well. Sound 9 No surprise here, it sounds like a Gibson Les Paul and I mean that as a compliment! The neck pickup is creamy, bluesy, and has all that warm goodness we’ve come to associate with Gibson. While it is no ’59 burst, these LP Studio guitars really sound like the real deal, even though they are the more affordable end of Gibson USA. While this guitar is weight relieved, I didn’t really feel any loss of sustain or resonance compared to other, full weight Gibson’s I’ve played. The bridge is obviously more bright and aggressive, and in my opinion provides the real Gibson tone that I’ve always loved and tried to emulate. Huge, classic tones pour out easily from Led Zeppelin to The Clash and everything in between. Gibson seems to have rightfully prioritized a return to the vintage blues and rock basis that made the brand famous. This guitar is perfect for the sounds you expect to get from it, and honestly had a few atmospheric licks up its sleeve. However, it definitely isn’t the most versatile guitar for maybe clean Jazz sounds or rhythmic chiming sounds. But if you’re buying a Les Paul Studio from Gibson you probably know what you’re getting and will not be disappointed! Oh and the in-between setting on the 3-way selector switch was maybe the best I’ve ever heard from a Les Paul. I usually strictly avoid that setting but it was a real charm here. Lastly I want to speak about the coil cuts. It is a really great feature that they’ve included here as it certainly makes the Studio a bit more versatile, but they weren’t the most impressive. The neck one sounded far more “coil split”-like than the bridge one. In fact, I could barely tell the bridge cut was anything more than a volume reduction. Not a major problem, but just something to think about and maybe I just got a dud. Playability 8 Les Pauls have not always won me over because of their feel and Gibson has a well recorded history of quality control and tuning stability issues. However, this guitar has far superior tuning stability to my 2011 Gibson Les Paul. I was really happy to see this and I assume it is because they’ve put more effort into perfecting the nut and how it is cut on each model. Furthermore, the G string still goes out of tune fairly often, which is just a known and respected flaw in Les Paul construction. This isn’t ideal, but I can certainly live with it in return for the huge upgrade in playability on my older Les Paul. The action was great out of the box, and I really liked the feel of the slim taper neck. It sat comfortably in my hands, with some of that baseball bat chunkiness as you move around the neck. Finish & Construction 9 This is where Gibson is really making me happy in 2020. This Les Paul Studio is just built so much better than some of the 2010’s Gibson guitars that I’ve played and owned. The fretwork was great, the finish was spotless, the nut was cut correctly. Everything seems to be pointing towards increased quality control coming out of Gibson. Their PR faults aside, this certainly made me think that Gibson is on its way back to the top of the guitar world. Even if the guitar is far from the perfection of higher end Gibson models, it feels so good to get an off the shelf, relatively affordable Les Paul with a Gibson logo that feels great. The lightweight construction also should appeal to many players like myself who prefer to swing a light Fender guitar around the stage. Smokehouse Burst is also just such a beautiful finish, with more depth and nuance to the color than I’ve seen on older burst models. I’ve been super critical of Gibson but they earned praise with this one. Value To be fair, there are some many great Les Paul guitars out there for less than the price of a Gibson. That Howl Sirena 3 I reviewed is one of them. However, I’m ultimately impressed with how Gibson seems to have put the attention to detail back into these lower priced Studios. While Les Paul studios have typically been the biggest offenders during Gibson’s leaner years, they got this one right. Overall you can get a real Gibson Les Paul with only a few minor, modern upgrades, for under $1500. That’s a win for everyone who can’t afford Customs, reissues, or vintage Gibson’s. Sometimes the name on the headstock does matter and if that is the case for you, Gibson has worked towards winning you back with this 2020 Les Paul Studio. Good for Blues, Classic Rock, High Gain, Players Looking For Lightweight Les Paul, Versatile Players
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With a history going back all the way to 1955, the Gibson Les Paul Special has been a popular fixture in the lineup ever since. It was originally introduced as a mid tier model to sit between the student grade Les Paul Junior and the high end Les Paul Standard, but thanks to its unique tones and incredible all round performance, it has gained a cult following all of its own. In this KillerGuitarRigs Review we got to spend some extra time with the LP Special, the guitar that we named as our Editor’s Choice in our roundup of the best P90 guitars. In this extended coverage, we’ll be going into detail about the aesthetics, features, build quality, tones, and overall performance of this amazing guitar. If you’re in the market for a guitar with P90 pickups and budget isn’t an issue, we think you’ll really love this Gibson – keep on reading to learn more about it! ContentsGibson Les Paul Special Who Is This For?Appearance / Features / ControlsPerformance / SoundOther Guitars to ConsiderGibson SG SpecialGibson Les Paul JuniorFinal Thoughts on the Gibson Les Paul Special The Gibson Les Paul Special is a premium US made guitar that we think is best suited to intermediate and advanced players. The price point is well above that of a typical beginner guitar, and its chunky 50s style neck is quite prohibitive for less experienced players. Guitarists with more experience, however, will appreciate the huge tonal range, pro quality electronics, and the high end fit and finish. Appearance / Features / Controls Gibson Les Paul Special - TV Yellow - In-Depth Demo! The test guitar we received came in the iconic TV Yellow finish – arguably the best color for a Les Paul Special. It looked fantastic, and it was abundantly clear that incredible care and attention had gone into the fit and finish of this guitar. If you’re not into the TV Yellow, it also comes in a Vintage Cherry finish. As expected from a Les Paul, it was made with all mahogany. Being a Special, it had a slab style body – this means that unlike the Les Paul Standard, there was no maple cap. This kept the weight down by comparison, with the guitar weighing just 7lb 11oz. The neck was also made with mahogany, and of course, had set construction. It had a Vintage 50s profile, which is a notoriously chunky shape. It’s not the most forgiving for newer players or those with smaller hands, but if you like a substantial neck, they don’t get much better than this. Topping the neck was a fantastic rosewood fretboard, which both looked and felt great. It had 22 medium jumbo frets, which like many new Gibsons, had been PLEK treated at the factory. The assortment of hardware was all of the usual high Gibson standard. It had Gibson Deluxe Tuners, a Graphtech TUSQ nut, and a wraparound bridge. Finally, as for the electronics, it came with a pair of incredible Gibson P90 pickups, a 3 way selector switch, hand wired pots, and period correct Orange Drop capacitors. Performance / Sound Gibson Les Paul Special Review Starting with playability, we actually found the Les Paul Special to be a real joy to play. Despite the gargantuan depth, the neck had a real worn in vintage feel that made it a lot more comfortable than you’d think. The nitro finish was also a big contributor to the sublime neck feel. It never felt sticky, and as time goes on and the lacquer starts wearing away, it will only get better. In fact, it wasn’t just the neck that the nitro improved – we felt it gave us a much closer connection to the guitar in general – it’s hard to explain until you actually feel it, but that barely there finish makes a world of difference. Being so much lighter than a traditional Les Paul, we found that it was incredibly comfortable to hold for longer periods of time, especially when standing – something working musicians will love about this guitar. Tonally speaking, the LP Special was an absolute riot. This model hasn’t changed much at all since its first introduction in 1955, and for us, this is one of the best things about it. It had a raw, vintage quality to the tone, albeit with more modern reliability and better resistance to the 60 cycle hum that plagues single coil pickups. The Gibson P90 pickups used in this model are some of the most versatile we’ve ever encountered. They’re able to handle high gain like humbuckers, and yet, they can still clean up like traditional single coils. In the neck position it was warm, and surprisingly thick sounding. It was clear and articulate, and served up some nice crunch when played with high gain, and when running through a clean channel was exceptionally sweet sounding. The bridge pickup delivered big across the board – epic lead tones with everything from aggressive overdrive through to crystal clear country sounds. It was super responsive, and all it took to completely change up the sound was a slight roll back on the volume pot. With the tone knob down it retained its clarity well, and when we dimed it, it stayed full-sounding, without even a hint of brittleness. Other Guitars to Consider The Gibson Les Paul Special is a team favorite at KGR, but there are still some other great options to consider. If you’d like to take a look at some alternatives before going ahead and buying, check out some of our other favorite P90 models. Gibson SG Special If you’re set on a 2 pickup model, but the Les Paul style body isn’t your thing, then the Gibson SG Special might be a great choice for you. Like the LP it’s all mahogany, but of course, it has the iconic double cutaway SG body, with beveled edges for improved comfort. Another key difference is the SlimTaper neck, which is significantly thinner than the Vintage 50s profile – this makes it a much more forgiving guitar for newer players, or for anybody looking for a faster playing model. Gibson Les Paul Junior For those who don’t need 2 P90 pickups, the Gibson Les Paul Junior is a solid alternative. It’s another slab body Les Paul with a single cutaway, and a Vintage 50s neck, with the main difference being the absence of a neck pickup. It has a single P90 in the bridge position, and delivers a surprisingly wide range of tones. It’s even lighter than the Special, making it a great option for gigging players looking for a comfortable P90 guitar. Final Thoughts on the Gibson Les Paul Special The Gibson Les Paul Special is a unique guitar that offers the vibe of a Les Paul, but with an edgy twist. It’s a raucous guitar with an incredible tonal range – it does everything from country to punk, and sounds amazing in the process. It’s a beautifully made guitar, and aesthetically speaking, is one of the best looking on the market. The feel is absolutely incredible, and the playability is amazing. If you’re looking for the best P90 guitar on the market, we honestly don’t think we could think of anything better than the Gibson Les Paul Special.
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Home Forums The Guitar Epiphone Guitars You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites should upgrade or use an alternative browser. Epi LP,s made in indonesia Thread starter tony2911 Start date Jul 1, 2020 Joined Sep 9, 2019 Messages 13 Reaction score 2 1 Hi Peeps, what do you folks think of the quality of Epi LP,s made in Indonesia Joined Jun 7, 2017 Messages 6 Reaction score 1 2 My only Epi/Indo experience would be with my 2018 Sheraton ll Pro. If the quality of that guitar is any example of what the Indonesian plant is producing, you should be very happy with the LP. Joined Jun 8, 2016 Messages 1,809 Reaction score 2,803 3 Unlike china, Indonesia makes some very nice Guitars. Well that's just a silly thing to say. If you played one from each country side by side, I'd wager a large amount that you wouldn't have the slightest idea which one was made where unless you knew beforehand. Epi has their own dedicated factory in China now and makes some fantastic guitars these days. CNC machines don't know what country they are in. Every factory puts out a lemon every now and then. Have you some of the pieces of shit that have come out of the Gibson Nashville plant the past few years? I have 3 Made in China Epis, 2 Made in Indonesia, and 2 made in Korea. I love all of them. Judge the guitar by the guitar, not by where it was born. Don't say dumb shit. BTW, welcome to Epi-Talk Joined Jan 16, 2015 Messages 7,554 Reaction score 9,281 Location Kraut-Territory 4 Unlike china, Indonesia makes some very nice Guitars. ...... Countries don't make guitars..... companies and their employees make guitars Epiphone has their own two factories in China since ~2003 Samick produces for Epiphone since ~1985 in Korea and for at least two decades in Indonesia. they make 'em as good as they are allowed to do for the $$ if they didn't write 'made in xxx' on the guitar, most of us could not tell where they were made.... It just goes to show that free people being paid a fair wage do a better job than those condemned to labor in a factory prison! you can have a look and a bit of reading about those Epi-factory prisons here.... and Welcome here €piTalk Joined Jul 12, 2016 Messages 3,364 Reaction score 3,902 Location Maryland, USA 5 It just goes to show that free people being paid a fair wage do a better job than those condemned to labor in a factory prison! Yes. Just imagine how productive Ted Bundy's murder victims would have been, had they lived to work and earn a fair wage. Seriously, WTF is up with your avatar? Joined Jan 16, 2015 Messages 7,554 Reaction score 9,281 Location Kraut-Territory 6 China is an aggressive communist country. With a track record of human rights violations as long as the great wall. Don't kid yourself. My point is simply this, NO guitar company goes to China to build their Top line guitars. Not true with other Asian countries. I believe Epiphone went to Japan to build the Elitist Series for a reason. I don't really care about your political view on China And remember it was the US located CEOs who decided to move the production to China The reason Epi moved production to Japan was back then Japan was what China is today - cheaper than US Ever heard of Eastman guitars ? High end made in China Joined Dec 7, 2015 Messages 3,352 Reaction score 4,038 Location Fort Collins, CO 8 Nice to meet the board bullies right off the bat! There are no "board bullies" here but there are those of us who are willing to step out and correct personal opinions stated as unsubstantiated fact as you did. So allow me to add yet another correction. The current Squire CV line are primarily former Vintage Modified models whose specs and appearance have been modified to replace the former MIC Squier CVs. The VM line has always been built in Indonesia and though good instruments in their own right have always been considered a notch down from the MIC CVs. What it all boils down to as Paruwi posted is cost. US mfgs like Fender who contract with Asian mfgs to build guitars and basses for them ask for an instrument they can buy for $$$ and sell for $$$$ to earn a profit at an established price point. For the CV line Fender's retail price limit appeared to be $400 for the majority of those models. When the cost of manufacture in China began to require pricing higher than $400 to retain the same profit margins for Fender and it's distributors and dealers production was moved Indonesia and VM models with slightly altered specs and finishes replaced most of the former MIC models. This is fact. Unlike Fender, Epiphone owns it's own Chinese manufacturing plant so ultimately they have complete control of cost and quality. And unlike Squiers the MIC Epiphones are also inspected here in the US before being shipped to dealers to assure the best QC they can provide. This is also fact. So......I believe what we're trying to say is that your post is based solely on your own opinions which are not based on substantiated facts. And if workers being paid a fair wage in a free society make far better instruments then why has Gibson struggled so much with their own QC issues on models costing many times more than their import cousins? You are certainly entitled to your own opinions but that doesn't make them true based on fact. Joined Dec 7, 2015 Messages 3,352 Reaction score 4,038 Location Fort Collins, CO 9 China is an aggressive communist country. With a track record of human rights violations as long as the great wall. Don't kid yourself. My point is simply this, NO guitar company goes to China to build their Top line guitars. Not true with other Asian countries. I believe Epiphone went to Japan to build the Elitist Series for a reason. The first statement is quite obviously true. The second may be true to an extent but it's not an absolute when you consider that many US companies have top of the line product built in China and I own some of it. In some cases where the traffic will bear because a much higher price can be charged a US company may elect to have an instrument built in Japan but then those models you mention have always been built in Japan. Some high end models from other US companies are also built in Korea and Indonesia by the very same companies who build their budget priced models. So in reality few if any absolutes actually exist. Joined Dec 7, 2015 Messages 3,352 Reaction score 4,038 Location Fort Collins, CO 10 I changed it just for you! I won't want any snowflakes to be offended. Ah ha, me thinks your politcal persuasion is now showing and we try hard to avoid that here. But if you'd like my opinion it seems to me that based on all the whining and wailing I hear from your side the true snowflakes are you and you're melting fast as this summer is showing. So please do depart. Joined May 2, 2019 Messages 82 Reaction score 105 Location CenTex 11 DavidSG, I think posts 7-11 pretty much earned you the responses you received. It's fairly obvious that you are one of those individuals who has a political bone to pick, especially considering the hyper political "snowflake" comment. If you thought that your politics would be welcomed into this guitar forum, you thought wrong. On that note and without further ado Joined May 4, 2020 Messages 123 Reaction score 194 14 The only reason there may be slight quality differences on guitar made in other parts of the world is... the managing bodies CEO's board of directors, upper management, etc, etc decided to only allow those guitars to be built with wood, hardware and electronics that fit their pricing paradigm. They choose from their management seats to limit the quality of guitars on purpose. As far as the OP's question about Indonesia-made guitars... they have been doing high quality wood working in Indonesia for centuries. Long before there was an Orville Gibson, Leo Fender, or Paul Reed Smith. Wood working is part of their culture. Google has plenty of info on the wood working and furniture making industry in Indonesia The geographical location of a guitar shop has zero to do with what quality of guitars are made in a factory within that country or location on the globe. The managing body that owns and operates the factory dictates the quality control and materials used inside the factory. So, if we send folks to Mars, then send them luthiers, and now we say "Martian guitars suck" only because they are maqde on Mars, what sense does that make? It has much more to do with the supply chain and decisions upper management makes that makes the overall end product. Globalization is a big 40 dollar word that means in part somebody knocked down the trade door to places like China and many other third world countries. There is something of value in these countries that appeals to businesses. Profits. The savings is, among other things, because the price of human resources in a third world country is way lower than trying to convince American workers to work for those levels of pay. I don't know exact labor statistics but I get the general idea that... a trained luthier in the USA might make I'm guessing $25-30 dollars an hours, plus demands benefits like health insurance, paid time off and vacations, etc, etc. Labor in America is very high compared to third world countries. So, with the trade door wide open with China, and BILLION people to employ, China becomes a target for saving a BUNCH of money on human resources labor costs. As does the price and cost of labor in many other countries in the world. Which may be why less guitars are Made in Japan now, because Japan's labor price has went up. I'm just gonna throw out a figure, but it is something like this... In the USA you have to pay a skilled craftsman $30 + benefits... I don't know the exact wage savings, but let's say in China or Indonesia people will work for $ an hour. Plus they will work 14 hour days, 7 days a week, never take vacations, and don't get a huge benefits package. In that scenario the company that owns the factory and sells the guitars back in the USA or world wide has way more hours of production per week, and is getting the products for pennies of the cost of labor. I think a more important question is how could a company like Gibson charge a ridiculous amount like $4, for a Les Paul Custom, and allow products to hit the sales floor with even ONE TIME having some kind of quality issue?? A guitar at that price should have been built by the hands of God and angels. It should be perfect... every one in that price range should be perfect. But instead they are simply a man made product and since man is not perfect, neither will the things he makes with his hands be perfect. I have this for an idea... let's take off the gloves and allow Indonesia and any other third world country that makes guitars the same exact quality of wood, hardware and electronics the USA Gibsons are allowed to use. I think the work ethic in these countries is much higher than what we typically see in the US worker. I think their love to HAVE a job drives their job satisfaction level. They live in very poor countries and don't have many of the things we take for granted in the US. As an observer, the typical US resident is full of "entertainment-itis" I call it. Whereas if you had tonsillitis or appendicitis a part of the flesh would need to be cut out to save the body. Americans tend to worry more about what sports team or what level they got in their newest X-Box game more than what type of work they placed over the counter at the factory. Entertainment is something Americans seem to hold more dear than any other aspect of life. What movie to entertain themselves with next, what new phone to buy so they can entertain themselves with a new phone, what big screen TV they can buy so they can watch their favorite entertaining sports team in vivid color. Not everyone, but this is the culture of people making guitars in America. Folks who come in late on Mondays and want to leave early on Fridays. I worked in the production/factory trades for a better part of my life and that is my observation of the typical American worker. Plus its my opinion from my perspective. I didn't work in the auto factories, but I grew up in Michigan and just about every family member I have worked in the auto factories. Places where you can go off in the corner and sleep and can't get fired because the Union UAW will protect you. One of my best friend's husbands would have somebody punch his time card for him at the factory, and be at home all day doing nothing, and getting paid for nothing. Meanwhile the cost of labor at the unionized auto plants has sky-rocketed as has the price of automobiles. Ten times the ridiculous price Gibson charges for a Les Paul Custom. As far as Asian-made guitars I have a bunch of them and I love them all. I have USA-made stuff, too, but I am more in awe of the Asian-made stuff because the price makes it a lot of fun to have several guitars rather than one guitar you're afraid to play because it might get scratched. I'm not really thrilled with the sound of the electronics from the Epiphone brand. But what I am thrilled with is the price I can find them on the used market, then I take that guitar and make it into something I am very proud to have changed. For example... I gave $150 for this Epiphone Les Paul Traditional Pro with an Epiphone hard LP case... It had lots of issues. No pickguard, no strap buttons, the Alnico Classic and Alnico Classic Plus pickups sounded like trebly, ice pick bee poop. One of the knobs was broken, and one of the push/pull pots didn't work. Plus, when engaging the push/pull for coil split on the pickup that did work, the pickups were so much ice picks there was little difference in tone, LOL. So, I drove down there as fast as I could before someone else saw the ad for this guitar for $150 on Craigslist... got a pickguard, installed Dunlop strap buttons, gutted all the electronics toggle, jack, caps, pots, wires as well as the ice pick pickups. Replaced the pups with Dimarzio John Petrucci Dreamcatcher bridge and Rainmaker neck. Wired the new pots 50's style... Now this is one helluva guitar, its dinged up plenty already so I don't fear playing it, and it has IMHO better tone than a $4,700 Les Paul Custom... I call this one "The Holy Trinity" as the pickguard I found at GreasyGroove has the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit in the form of a dove. Then there is the Epiphone Les Paul Custom I found at the pawn shop for $285. It had rusty crusty strings and was in need of a new home. Brought it home, discovered it needed a new output jack which is why nobody had bought it, soldered that in, now I have another project waiting to happen. Thinking maybe this time Dimarzio 36th Anniversary PAFs, we'll see. As if I don't have enough black/ebony guitars, just got this Epiphone Dot from the pawn shop. $200. The strings were corroded and looked like it had been sitting somewhere not played for years. It needed a new home... Thinking either a Seymour Duncan JB bridge/Jazz neck set, or maybe a Seymour Pearly Gates set have Alnico 2 magnets like the Gibson '57 Classics for a lot less money... '57s with 4-conductor wires are $200 EACH on the Gibson page... NOT... But this one, made in Indonesia just takes the cake... a 2011 Epiphone Nighthawk Custom Reissue... spotless and mint as they come, still had the little washer thing on the tone knob... $200... absolutely gorgeous made-in Indonesia quality... 5-way switch and tons of tones, wouldn't change a thing on this one... this one among others has made me an Epiphone convert out of a previously American-only snob... Last edited Jul 11, 2020 15 I'm am leaving this board. It seems piling on and trolling rule here. I have no desire to be part of a board where honest discussion is not tolerated, and "don't say stupid shit, is." Tell Karen we said she should stay home too! Why do people trolls feel the need to announce that they're leaving? At the risk of repeating myself Joined Dec 7, 2015 Messages 3,352 Reaction score 4,038 Location Fort Collins, CO 16 Well said Jam Handy. I'll just add one more thought relative to labor costs. We live in a capitalist free market nation and our basic cost of living is much higher here than it is in many Asian nations where some basic human needs such as health care are not provided by a consortium of for profit corporations selling insurances, drugs, hospitalization, surgeries, etc. which make our basic health care costs outrageous and increasing at a far greater rate than we can easily cope with. To that you can add many other basic human needs being provided completely or via heavily subsidized government intervention and control of availability and cost. Asian nations more like our own also have higher labor costs so much guitar manufacture has often been moved away from those nations to those with lower labor costs like Indonesia or India. But they still build what we pay them to build. Throw in currency valuations as yet another major variable and you have yet another element why US designed guitars are often built in Asia where they can be produced far cheaper and a strong dollar buys more quantity and quality than it can buy here. Like it or not our capitalist world can't compete with theirs in terms of building something like a guitar far cheaper than we can and we will never again "catch up" or compete with this unless we somehow design and build robot guitar builders who don't eat. sleep, or require health care and retirement/pension plan benefits, cars to drive, or houses to live in. This isn't meant to be a political lecture it's simply an "it is what it is" statement of facts. Last edited Jul 13, 2020 Joined Mar 14, 2020 Messages 2 Reaction score 2 17 Well said Jam Handy. I'll just add one more thought relative to labor costs. We live in a capitalist free market nation and our basic cost of living is much higher here than it is in many Asian nations where some basic human needs such as health care are not provided by a consortium of for profit corporations selling insurances, drugs, hospitalization, surgeries, etc. which make our basic health care costs outrageous and increasing at a far greater rate than we can easily cope with. To that you can add many other basic human needs being provided completely or via heavily subsidized government intervention and control of availability and cost. Asian nations more like our own also have higher labor costs so much guitar manufacture has often been moved away from those nations to those with lower labor costs like Indonesia or India. But they still build what we pay them to build. Throw in currency valuations as yet another major variable and you have yet another element why US designed guitars are often built in Asia where they can be produced far cheaper and a strong dollar buys more quantity and quality than it can buy here. Like it or not our capitalist world can't compete with theirs in terms of building something like a guitar far cheaper than we can and we will never again "catch up" or compete with this unless we somehow design and build robot guitar builders who don't eat. sleep, or require health care and retirement/pension plan benefits, cars to drive, or houses to live in. This isn't meant to be a political lecture it's simply an "it is what it is" statement of facts. Very much agree. Just the facts. Home Forums The Guitar Epiphone Guitars pBWqivQ. 243 497 305 380 320 204 109 495 126

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